The FIRE (Financial Independence Retire Early) Movement has exploded in the past year, gaining mainstream coverage, including a documentary, many new books, and a high-profile debate with old-school personal finance gurus.

But even though the "FIRE is spreading," is it already dead? In this episode I go deep with one of my personal favorite FI bloggers, Bob Lai about his own journey, what the FIRE movement is missing, living a joyful life, and why happiness might not be the only logical pursuit. Check it out.