Jonathan and I met in his art studio and spoke about a lot! Electric peanuts, India, Temples, Shifting focus from bodies to nature, What is art?, The making of art and the appreciation of art, Psychedelic aesthetic as induced by non-psychedelic experience, The places Jonathan lived and worked, Art and the blurry distinction between individual and social endeavours, Identity, Performance art, Art as a career, And that's where I'll stop!