“My first song was a love song about a koala”. You may know him as Jordie Saenz, or as Lakewalks. You may know him from his work with Love You Later. But if you don't know him or his music, you're missing out. Mr. Jordie and I talked about creative ruts, tour life, song debt, the indie romance film that is his marriage, Pokémon, BoJack Horseman, and many other lovely topics. We also play a game of Soundtrack to Your Life and most importantly, Jordie explains why he makes music! Featured tracks: Easy and Make Gold.