In this episode of Making More, I’m joined by Luís Dias, founder of Legau, to talk about what it really takes to build a product, build a team, and build conviction when the road is not predictable.

Luís and I get into the daily realities of startup leadership, what it looks like to earn clarity through action, and why “better tools” only matter when they’re paired with better thinking and stronger habits. We also talk about the difference between being busy and being effective, the importance of shaping your workflow before you automate it, and how leaders can stay grounded when the stakes feel high and the pace is constant.

Toward the end, Luís answers the signature question of the show with a response I’ll be thinking about for a while: “making more fun.” Not comfort. Not ease. Fun, as in learning to enjoy the long game so you can sustain the work and keep building with energy.

In this episode, we cover:

• What Luís is building with Legau and the problem it’s designed to solve
• Why good process matters more than flashy tooling
• How to think about sustainable execution when the work is never “done”
• The mindset shift from chasing outcomes to enjoying the build
• Luís’s “Making More” answer: making more time for fun in the process

Connect with Luís / Legau:

• Luís Dias on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/luis-alves-dias
• Legau: https://legau.com/

Find Billy on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/bigeyedfisch/ or visit his website, billyfischer.focalpointcoaching.com.