They talk about his studio, French and English, how they met at Orkus skatepark, skateboarding, definitions of street art, playing with the environment, illegality in art, mentoring newcomers, spreading love and positivity, being taught to fear, Make Noize's collaborative art installation with Adida Fallen Angel, building bigger art projects and pushing limits, Make Noize products, clothes, spray can lamps, Ron English, the Souriez Vous Êtes Filmé art campaign, paying attention to politics without becoming depressed, living with passion and making art for joy not money