On this episode, Kris and I talk:

California condors, witnessing the beginning of semantic architecture, Cadillac ad campaigns, the alarming balance of society, the communal feeling of watching football, the black national anthem, sports as a safe space to argue, celebrating interracial community, Super Bowl commercials, aggressively antagonistic terrain, coach wars, and an imaginative challenge that finds David telling a tale of an outsider artist with a goopy alien intelligence giving his art a life of its own.

There's also book talk at the end!