This week we welcome back Amy Fox, CEO and co-founder of Mobius Executive Leadership. Amy is a beacon of transformational leadership and a steward of spaces where healing and growth flourish. She joined us recently for a conversation about trauma-informed leadership, and what makes today’s episode special is that this conversation was recorded almost two years ago. For a variety of reasons we weren’t able to publish at that time, but we’re excited to finally be able to share this enlightening conversation with you today as a bonus episode.

If you haven’t yet heard my previous conversation with Amy, this episode will serve as a wonderful companion piece. Amy shares insights on the importance of respecting defense mechanisms, the innate desire for connection, and the power of creating safe spaces — even virtually — that can be felt across continents. As we navigate the complexities of leadership in a world that’s both charted and uncharted, Amy’s voice is both a guide and a gentle reminder that we are all walking each other home.

Let’s get settled in and hear what Amy has for us.

Text within this block will maintain its original spacing when published"The Journey" by Mary Oliver

One day you finally knew

What you had to do, and began,

Though the voices around you

Kept shouting

Their bad advice,

Though the whole house

Began to tremble

And you felt the old tug

At your ankles.

"Mend my life!"

Each voice cried.

But you didn't stop.

You knew what you had to do,

Though the wind pried

With its stiff fingers

At the very foundations,

Though their melancholy

Was terrible.

It was already late

Enough, and a wild night,

And the road full of fallen

branches and stones.

But little by little,

As you left their voices behind,

The stars began to burn

Through the sheets of clouds,

And there was a new voice,

Which you slowly

Recognized as your own,

That kept you company

As you strode deeper

Into the world,

Determined to do

The only thing you could do,

Determined to save

The only life you could save.

Show Notes:

• #129 Trauma-Informed Leadership (with Amy Elizabeth Fox)

• linkedin.com/in/amyelizabethfox

• twitter.com/Amy_Mobius

• mobiusleadership.com

• thomashuebl.com

• sevenstonesleadership.com

• “Winning From Within: A Breakthrough Method for Leading, Living, and Lasting Change” by Erica Ariel Fox

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• KONU // Leadership development for mission-driven change agents

• KONU Events // Open enrollment leadership development workshops

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewjcahill/

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