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Getting New Methodologies Off the Ground: Lessons from Digital Engineering Transformation with Chris Finlay
Implementing a new engineering methodology sounds straightforward on paper. In reality, it often means navigating organizational resistance, changing long-standing habits, proving value quickly, and building momentum one success at a time.
In this episode of Stay Sharp in Digital Engineering, hosts Juliann Grant and Jonathan Scott sit down with Chris Finlay, Vice President of Engineering Innovation at SAIC, to discuss his journey helping organizations adopt Model-Based Systems Engineering (MBSE), digital engineering, digital thread strategies, and AI-enabled engineering practices across the defense industry.
Chris shares candid stories from the front lines of transformation, including early MBSE projects, lessons learned overcoming resistance, and the practical strategies that helped move digital engineering from experimentation to enterprise adoption.
Key Topics Discussed
The Accidental Start of Digital Engineering
Chris recounts how one of his earliest experiences with what would later be called MBSE started simply as a way to manage overwhelming engineering complexity. By leveraging modeling tools and connecting data across engineering artifacts, his team unknowingly created one of their first digital threads long before the term became commonplace.
Why Resistance is Normal
New methodologies often challenge established workflows and expose inefficiencies. Chris explains why resistance from program leaders and engineers isn't necessarily opposition—it’s often a rational response to perceived risk. Successful transformation requires empathy, patience, and meeting people where they are.
The Power of Quick Wins
One of Chris's strongest recommendations is to avoid trying to "boil the ocean." Instead, organizations should identify a manageable use case, demonstrate measurable value quickly, and build momentum through visible successes.
The Story of the Skeptical Product Owner
Chris shares a memorable example of an engineering leader who entered a model review determined to prove MBSE didn't work—only to immediately identify critical issues that the model exposed. The experience became a powerful demonstration of how digital engineering can reveal problems earlier and at lower cost.
Finlay's Five Firsts of Digital Engineering
Chris outlines the principles that have guided his transformation efforts for over a decade:
The Gray Beard Phenomenon
One of the most interesting insights from the discussion is Chris's "Gray Beard Phenomenon." Engineers working closely with digital models rapidly become subject matter experts because they gain access to the system's "crystal ball"—the connected knowledge captured within the model.
Measuring and Celebrating Success
Transformation efforts gain traction when organizations track meaningful metrics and celebrate progress. Chris emphasizes that cultural change requires both measurable outcomes and visible recognition of teams that deliver value.
Key Takeaways
About the Guest
Chris Finlay is Vice President of Engineering Innovation at SAIC, where he leads enterprise digital engineering transformation initiatives spanning MBSE, digital thread, digital twin, and AI-enabled engineering. With more than 20 years of experience in defense systems engineering, Chris has helped scale digital engineering capabilities across major organizations and mission-critical programs.
Connect With Stay Sharp in Digital Engineering
Have questions about digital engineering transformation, MBSE adoption, or digital thread strategies? Leave a comment, connect with the Razorleaf team, or reach out to continue the conversation.
Music is considered “royalty-free” and discovered on Story Blocks.
Technical Podcast Support by Jon Keur at Wayfare Recording Co.
© 2026 Razorleaf Corp. All Rights Reserved.
By Razorleaf Corp.Getting New Methodologies Off the Ground: Lessons from Digital Engineering Transformation with Chris Finlay
Implementing a new engineering methodology sounds straightforward on paper. In reality, it often means navigating organizational resistance, changing long-standing habits, proving value quickly, and building momentum one success at a time.
In this episode of Stay Sharp in Digital Engineering, hosts Juliann Grant and Jonathan Scott sit down with Chris Finlay, Vice President of Engineering Innovation at SAIC, to discuss his journey helping organizations adopt Model-Based Systems Engineering (MBSE), digital engineering, digital thread strategies, and AI-enabled engineering practices across the defense industry.
Chris shares candid stories from the front lines of transformation, including early MBSE projects, lessons learned overcoming resistance, and the practical strategies that helped move digital engineering from experimentation to enterprise adoption.
Key Topics Discussed
The Accidental Start of Digital Engineering
Chris recounts how one of his earliest experiences with what would later be called MBSE started simply as a way to manage overwhelming engineering complexity. By leveraging modeling tools and connecting data across engineering artifacts, his team unknowingly created one of their first digital threads long before the term became commonplace.
Why Resistance is Normal
New methodologies often challenge established workflows and expose inefficiencies. Chris explains why resistance from program leaders and engineers isn't necessarily opposition—it’s often a rational response to perceived risk. Successful transformation requires empathy, patience, and meeting people where they are.
The Power of Quick Wins
One of Chris's strongest recommendations is to avoid trying to "boil the ocean." Instead, organizations should identify a manageable use case, demonstrate measurable value quickly, and build momentum through visible successes.
The Story of the Skeptical Product Owner
Chris shares a memorable example of an engineering leader who entered a model review determined to prove MBSE didn't work—only to immediately identify critical issues that the model exposed. The experience became a powerful demonstration of how digital engineering can reveal problems earlier and at lower cost.
Finlay's Five Firsts of Digital Engineering
Chris outlines the principles that have guided his transformation efforts for over a decade:
The Gray Beard Phenomenon
One of the most interesting insights from the discussion is Chris's "Gray Beard Phenomenon." Engineers working closely with digital models rapidly become subject matter experts because they gain access to the system's "crystal ball"—the connected knowledge captured within the model.
Measuring and Celebrating Success
Transformation efforts gain traction when organizations track meaningful metrics and celebrate progress. Chris emphasizes that cultural change requires both measurable outcomes and visible recognition of teams that deliver value.
Key Takeaways
About the Guest
Chris Finlay is Vice President of Engineering Innovation at SAIC, where he leads enterprise digital engineering transformation initiatives spanning MBSE, digital thread, digital twin, and AI-enabled engineering. With more than 20 years of experience in defense systems engineering, Chris has helped scale digital engineering capabilities across major organizations and mission-critical programs.
Connect With Stay Sharp in Digital Engineering
Have questions about digital engineering transformation, MBSE adoption, or digital thread strategies? Leave a comment, connect with the Razorleaf team, or reach out to continue the conversation.
Music is considered “royalty-free” and discovered on Story Blocks.
Technical Podcast Support by Jon Keur at Wayfare Recording Co.
© 2026 Razorleaf Corp. All Rights Reserved.