So many people in the world struggle with saying NO.

We can talk about morals, laws and ethics all day, but how to we put in the work to self advocate better when those ethics aren't being respected by others?

We tackled the topic and had our own version of "NO training" with Kathy.

Also talked about when a Master/Dom has their anger and meltdowns and can't take care of the sub/slave.

Join us being messy with lots of important topics and hopefully come up with some good options and opinions.

End show song is Gabby