Eugene and Charis discuss how data is both dangerous and useful, how it has impacted growth of all kinds and changed the way we think about algorithms. They also talk about Instagram going all-in on shopping and what we personally turn to Instagram for now.

00:01:58 Data is fire

00:27:15 Instagram shopping

Data is Fire by Yancey Strickler 

We’re All Trapped in Instagram’s Digital Mall Now by Hazel Cills

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