Shawn’s in the United States, so Anecdote Principal Rob Grundel is temporarily taking over as Mark’s Anecdotally Speaking cohost. And this week, Rob shares a story about how Michael B Jordan has directed and starred in Creed III: https://buff.ly/3rlauh3

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