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#147 Playing in the Fourth Moment (with Catherine Bell)


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Catherine Bell is a successful entrepreneur, business leader, and best-selling author. She is the CEO and founder of The Awakened Company, a group that focuses on helping organizations develop and foster healthy work cultures through the awakening of the self, relationships, and team dynamics. Her book of the same name is a response to the world-wide crisis of financial instability, and posits that a fundamental reset of the economy calls for a shift in practice where businesses are measured by their state of awareness, and not profitability alone.

In this conversation, we learn what it means to play in “the fourth moment.” In Buddhism, the fourth moment is known as not the past, present, or the future — but encapsulates and transcends all three. Described in Tibetan Buddhist literature as “nowness,” the fourth moment is a state of awareness and acceptance of the present exactly as it is, here, now. We discuss the importance of being connected to the larger story of life beyond its immediate challenges; the roles of creativity, play, and mindfulness — from the minutiae of daily living, to parenting, to even running a business; and a delightful practice of synchronicity and connection Catherine calls, “reverse pick-pocketing.

Text within this block will maintain its original spacing when published"Just Beyond Yourself" by David Whyte
Just beyond
yourself.
It's where
you need
to be.
Half a step
into
self-forgetting
and the rest
restored
by what
you'll meet.
There is a road
always beckoning.
When you see
the two sides
of it
closing together
at that far
horizon
and deep in
the foundations
of your own
heart
at exactly
the same
time,
that's how
you know
it's the road
you have
to follow.
That's how
you know
it's where
you
have
to go.
That's how
you know
you have
to go.
That's
how you know.
Just beyond
yourself,
it's
where you
need to be.

Show Notes:

  • www.catherinerbell.com

  • www.theawakenedcompany.com

  • www.instagram.com/theawakenedcompany

  • “The Awakened Company” by Catherine Bell

  • “Beyond Present, Past, and Future is The Fourth Moment” by Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche

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