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148: Ann Rae - Making Art, Making Money and Artists Who Thrive
# Episode 148
**Summary:**
In Episode #148 Ari shares the podcast with Ann Rae of [Artists Who Thrive](http://artistswhothrive.com/) and [Making Art, Making Money](http://www.makingartmakingmoney.com/)—Resources that help artists understand the business-end of creativity. During their conversation Ann explains how she persevered in the face of failure to ultimately create an art-centric career capable of generating over $100,000 per year.
**Special Announcements:**
# [Less Doing
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By Ari Meisel# Episode 148
**Summary:**
In Episode #148 Ari shares the podcast with Ann Rae of [Artists Who Thrive](http://artistswhothrive.com/) and [Making Art, Making Money](http://www.makingartmakingmoney.com/)—Resources that help artists understand the business-end of creativity. During their conversation Ann explains how she persevered in the face of failure to ultimately create an art-centric career capable of generating over $100,000 per year.
**Special Announcements:**
# [Less Doing