On October 7, Hamas attacks in Israel killed an estimated 1,200 people and took over 200 people hostage. The Israeli response, including intense bombardments and a ground offensive in Gaza, has been extremely destructive, reportedly killing over 13,000 Palestinians including 5,500 children as of the time of this episode’s recording. In this episode, Emily Tripp, Director of the casualty counting organization Airwars, joins us to make sense of these numbers and explain the process and importance of casualty recording. 

Guest: Emily Tripp, Director of Airwars

This podcast is brought to you by CIVIC and PAX. 

You can find a full transcript of this episode here.

This episode includes clips from FOX 26 Houston, France 24, ABC News, US Defense Department, NPR, and Al Arabiya English.

To learn more about civilian harm in Gaza, see:

• Airwars, Israel and Gaza 2023
• CIVIC, Civilians in Gaza Running out of Self-Protection Options
• PAX: Dutch Government, Don’t Give Israel Carte Blanche
• Just Security, Law and Policy Guide to US Arms Transfers to Israel
• Every Casualty Counts, Casualty Recorders Network