Deb joins PK from the Bahamas and they discuss her struggles with trying to change the system there. She is a holistic practitioner with a lot of wisdom to share and she discusses this with PK as well. Deb also talks of her children with PK and there are insights given regarding them. Deb has dedicated most of her life to birthing babies and now desires to birth a book with all of her wisdom to leave something behind for women. PK admonishes her and encourages her in this episode. It's an interesting interaction and one that PK supports wholeheartedly.

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