Shawn and Loren get into a nice, quiet, wandering conversation for the  evening, as it's just the two of them tonight.  Loren gets a personal, talking about a possible new love interest. They  bring up social anxiety and how nicotine operates within the realm of  closing conversations.  Loren and Shawn also discusses how far the podcast has come since they  first started nearly four months after the first episode.  Also, what the fuck was with that TV show "It Takes a Theif"?