You are used to these guys talking Cyclones, the Big 12 and the world of college athletics. In the latest installment of the Chris Williams Podcast, CW welcomes his good friend and colleague Brent Blum on to talk about parenting, in honor of Father's Day.

The great, good, bad and ugly.

A somewhat heavy conversation between two friends about kids that they adore.

Enjoy, courtesy of Mechdyne.

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