As Southeast Asia's largest and most populated country, Indonesia has made gigantic economic strides in recent years and is arguably the most mature democracy in the region, under the leadership of President Joko Widodo, more affectionately know as "Jokowi". However, state funding for sport in the region is still mainly focused on the elite or performance-level, whilst initiatives to encourage mass sport participation is lacking and largely left up to non-governmental and private actors to organize. This week, Carl makes his long-awaited comeback and joins me in speaking to the founding figures of the Jakarta-based sport policy think-tank, Ganesport. Tune in, as we ask them about the history of mass sport participation in Indonesia, the influential work that Ganesport has undertaken to promote grassroots sport in the region, as well as their thoughts on a potential 2032 Olympics Games in their home country!