Jack and Pat are joined by their cousin ex-All Black Brad Mika as he discusses his journey to becoming an All Black and his experiences as a coach of Malaysia post-playing career.

Bradley Moni Mika is a New Zealand rugby union player. His position is lock. He was educated at St Peter's College. He made his provincial debut for Auckland in 2000, his Super Rugby debut for Crusaders in 2002, and his international debut in the same year.

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