In this episode, we're honoured to have a couple of NHS comms titans onboard for a chat: Ross Wigham and Jude Tipper.

They're very honest about how the last few weeks have been for them, their colleagues and families.

We cover why video calls are exhausting, share some lessons learned and, of course, get some top distractions from them if all this coronavirus stuff is getting too much.

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