“Four psychoanalysts enter a bar …” or so would go a variation of the jocular trope, except that this installment of Discussions on Psychoanalysis was not recorded in a bar, and much less the subject is a funny thing. In this episode, your hosts, Grégoire Pierre and Edgard Francisco Danielsen, invite two other psychoanalysts – Tine Pahl and Peter Jaegerman – to ponder the complexities of race and racism. This podcast was recorded 18 months ago, and you won’t hear a word on COVID or latest social and political unrest experienced in the United States; nevertheless, the conversation between these four psychoanalysts remains current. “Four psychoanalysts record a podcast,” one is French, one is Puerto Rican, another is German, and the fourth is American. We come to the table from different cultural and academic backgrounds (Law, Natural Sciences, Psychology, and Developmental Research) and explore race and racism from sociological and psychoanalytic perspectives. We talk about identity and intersectionality, identification and fantasy, splitting and violence, and much more.

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