Welcome to Podmas Day 8! Corissa (18), Cade (15), Alex (15) and Ruth discuss the part of the Christmas story that we tend not to want to discuss...Herod. We talk about the nitty, gritty bits of bible stories that we don't hear as kids. In the end though, we recognize that, in so many situations, the ugly bits are so important because they make the joyful bits even more joyful.