We often talk about science like it’s going to deliver us final and certain answers--but is that really how it works? In this mind-blowing episode I chat with theoretical physicist and several times best-selling author Marcelo Gleiser about the open-endedness, adventure, and majesty of the scientific quest. Gleiser tells us how he ditched his intellectual comfort zones, why he has such a different view of science from other famous scientists, and how personal tragedy led him to experience the unknown as beautiful.