This short podcast continues to explore the human condition in our experiences of happiness, joy, and gratitude. It is appreciative of modern Cognitive Therapy as a help in working out negative emotions;  indeed, it finds the basic precepts of Cognitive Therapy to be present in ancient Greek philosophy, folk wisdom,  and biblical wisdom stories.  At the same time, it is noted that the experience of real joy (mystical joy) has its source in something still deeper than any psychological technique.