Bias isn’t always intentional - but it’s always influential. From who we comfort first, to who we see as “leadership material,” our unconscious choices shape the culture of every classroom and workplace.

In this episode of The Bold Blueprint, Barbi and Jamie sit down with their first international guest, Kate Jordan-Downs, M.S.Ed. - an educational entrepreneur, DEIB consultant, and teacher at heart. With experience spanning the classroom, executive leadership, and her own inclusion focused consultancy, Kate brings both lived practice and systemic perspective.

Together, we unpack:

· The difference between explicit bias (what we admit) and implicit bias (what leaks out).

· Why bias is an emotional reflex before a conscious choice.

· Everyday examples of bias in education and care, from halo effect to attribution bias.

· Why equity and fairness are not the same, and how good practice doesn’t always equal just practice.

· Practical tools for reflection, and how to turn awareness into action.

Kate challenges us to lean into the discomfort, take ownership, and recognise that neuroplasticity means bias isn’t fixed. By doing the messy work of unlearning, we can rewire our habits, build authentic inclusion, and create spaces where every child and every educator truly belongs.

Whether you’re a new educator or a seasoned leader, this episode will push you to see what often goes unseen - and to act on it.

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