When was the last time you tried something new? Something that won’t make you more productive, make you more money, or check anything off your to-do list? Something you’re really, really bad at, but that brought you joy?

Odds are, not recently.

Author, Karen Rinaldi joins us for a powerful discussion about how being a shitty surfer and all-around-imperfect human has helped her to live a richer, more fulfilling life and how you can reclaim for your health and your sanity through your own riotous suck-ability.