This week we talk to artist collaborators and co-directors of Heavy Breathing, Sophia Wang and Lisa Rybovich Crallé. We hit on all your Christmas favorites: Luce Irigaray, Nietzsche, scavenger hunts, and goddess worship. All the music in this episode is by The Cubby Creatures Heavy Breathing Lisa Rybovich Crallé Luce Irigaray Fuck You Pay Us Mind and body! Engage!