This week we talk with Diana Gruver, author of Companions in the Darkness: Seven Saints Who Struggled with Depression and Doubt. She talks to us about the struggles of people like Charles Spurgeon, Mother Theresa, William Cowper, Martin Luther King Jr., and more. In the intro, Robert & Holly talk about historical figures that have shaped them.

Things we mention in this episode/other resources:

- CXMH ep. 155 - Spirituality in Therapy Sessions (feat. Russell Siler Jones)

- the Look Up Conference that Holly mentions

- the Puddcast ep #110: Facing depression with saints from the past (with Diana Gruver)

Connect with Diana on her website, on Facebook, or on Twitter. Buy Companions in the Darkness: Seven Saints Who Struggled with Depression and Doubt on Amazon.

Quotes:

- “I don’t know of a better way to unravel stigma than through the telling of stories.” (tweet)

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Intro/Outro music for this episode is ‘Fall Down’ by Rivers & Robots.