In this episode, Jacob talks to Lindsay Chervinsky, a historian of early America, the Presidency and especially the Presidential Cabinet. Lindsay came out with a new book linked here. Here’s what they talk about: 
00:00 Intro2:50 The British origins of the cabinet as an institution  9:41  The importance of republican virtue15:44 The cabinet’s glass ceiling19:52 Did the cabinet ultimately succeed or fail? Jefferson v. Hamilton30:59 The future of the cabinet36:34 Criticism of sitting presidents by former cabinet officials40:50 Lindsay’s favorite cabinet members in history45:53 Outro 
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