In this episode, Dustin talks to Bobby, who comes from the Seattle area. He's an entrepreneur and a designer. In this conversation, we talk about balancing caring for others and caring for yourself. We talk about what his dad told him that shifted his perspective on failure. And we talk about what it means to be an explorer. If you liked this episode, please share it with a friend and subscribe. As always, thank you for tuning into the Earthian Podcast.