The pop girlies are going hard, between Chappell, Jojo, Charli, Sabrina, we’re eating well. Plus, we chat about changes to domestic violence laws in WA, the challenges of negotiating ceasefire, and in our deep dive we go deep about fears that we’re behind in our careers, and the struggles of hyper-independence.

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These are the links we mentioned:

• New laws in WA would take guns away from people accused of DV
• Animal Rising activists paste Wallace and Gromit image over portrait of King Charles at London art gallery - ABC News
• Australian police forces have a domestic violence problem and we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg - ABC News
• Police Domestic Violence: Data Shows 40 Percent of Cops Abuse Family
• Charli XCX Seemed To Shade Camila Cabello's "I Luv It" On TikTok

We hope you loved the pod, hosted by your favourite personality hires Simran Pasricha & Ryan Hamilton. Tell a friend about us and we'll love you forever! Otherwise, we'll see you next week with a new episode.

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