Feeling stuck in his meditation practice and looking for guidance from a 4th Path adept, Brendan talks again to Roger Thisdell, someone who has attained a new default experience of mind as permanently centerless and without the sense of a singly, positioned epistemic agent (i.e., what in traditional language might be called "enlightenment"). Both thought it might be helpful to explore some instructional guidance in a podcast setting, where the process could be shared for others' benefit. In this context, Roger asks some probing questions and offers some helpful tips and suggestions for cultivating awakening.   

0:00 Introduction 

2:54 Brendan Describes His Path and Motivation towards Waking Up 

9:12 (Clarifying Nonduality) 

12:22 Brendan Tries to Describe His Phenomenological Sense of Self 

16:47 Shifting Perspective through Thought 

21:50 Symbolizing Awakened Consciousness 29:45 Beyond Equanimity: Zeroing in on the "Self" 

40:54 The Uses of Conception to Change Perception 

42:39 Building Motivation 

48:07 Fire Kasina 

50:45 Being vs. Striving 

54:52 Building Metacognition 

59:11 Naming Our Motivations

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