This episode features a discussion on Confucius and his ideas. Confucius lived during a chaotic time period of Chinese history, and his ideas concentrated on how to restore order to society. Although he only achieved modest success during his lifetime, his ideas have been a key part of Chinese civilization for thousands of years.

Yair Lior returns for this episode. He is a professor at Boston University's department of religion, and an expert in comparative theology.

Unfortunately, I had some audio issues recording this episode. Its still listenable, but sounds more like a recorded zoom call than the in person conversation we had :(