Today's guest is a former US Navy fighter pilot who was also the lead solo pilot of the Blue Angels - but cooler than that during the interview I found out he actually flew in the original Top Gun film.

He now applies everything he's learned as an expert in how to build, and get the most out of high-performance teams so you can trust people, trust the system, and actually get things done.

So please help me welcome to the We Do Hard Things Podcast, the man who flew a plane as high into the atmosphere as possible "just to see how high it could go…" - John Foley.

Hey there, I'm Mark Drager. You may not know me (yet) but: 🔨

I've built a 7-figure agency called Phanta Media (phanta.com) 🎙️

I'm the host of the We Do Hard Things Podcast and The Something To Prove Podcast with Evan Carmichael 🚀

I help brands and people with something to prove figure out who they need to be to get what they want.

👇 Check out all the goodies here -- markdrager.com/links And remember you've got to Think big, Be bold, and Say yes.