What started as two women sitting in a Starbucks saying, “If only people could just hear our conversations…” turned into a podcast that cracked business wide open.

In Today's episode, Gwen and Natalie pull back the curtain even further. They talk about slowing sales, shiny-object pivots, the pressure to look confident when you’re still figuring it out, and the courage it takes to say no—even to good opportunities. They unpack the reality of building a business rooted in integrity, why sales conversations matter more than ever, and how authenticity (not perfection) is becoming the real currency in today’s market.

This isn’t a dramatic goodbye. It’s an intentional pause. A conversation about trust, intuition, simplifying, and choosing depth over speed. If you’ve ever wondered, “What am I doing?” or felt the tension between chasing growth and building something sustainable—you’re not alone. Season One may be wrapping, but the honesty isn’t going anywhere.

Connect With Your Hosts:

⁠Follow Gwen on Instagram⁠

⁠Visit Grit and Tenacity Consulting Website⁠

⁠Listen to The Reigning Queen Podcast⁠

⁠Follow Natalie on Instagram⁠

⁠Visit Natalie Barnett Website⁠

⁠Listen to The Embodied Entrepreneur Podcast