In this episode, we talk with Matt Rowe from Headwaters Volatility. Matt has over two decades of experience trading volatility at multibillion dollar asset managers. We talk with Matt about why the best portfolios have both long and short volatility and how investors often get the mix wrong. Matt has particularly great point on the importance of market microstructure and why we've seen an increase in volatility selling programs since 2017. We also trace the long history of volatility as an asset class, particularly looking at the convertible bond market in the late 90s/early 2000s and what parallels there are to the present day.