Mirko and Michael are the co-founders of Fiume, a Data Science Consultancy based in London.

After successful careers working in Data, setting up research labs and building teams, the guys decided to go it alone in 2020.

Little did they know - a global pandemic was about to hit.

However, they have stayed positive and learned a lot along the way so it was great fun to talk to them both.

As always, we're brought to you by the wonderful people at Cathcart Associates.

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