This week I'm joined by Richard D. Bartlett for a deep dive into what it is that drives us both to cultivate community. We question whether our passion is coming from a wholly integrated place and explore how our trauma often compels us to act the way we do. We also break down the constellation of thinkers that have most inspired us and zero in on the difference between linking and ranking in social contexts. I enjoyed this conversation with every ounce of my being and hope it touches you the way it did me. I recommend you check out the courses that Rich and Nati offer through the Hum, I made some really great new friends after doing the Microsolidarity course last year.