It was just a short road trip for our younger son, Max, and me, just around 1.5 hours for a spring break spontaneous getaway, but I took advantage of our time alone together to record this podcast.

We've done quite a lot of traveling with our two boys, via air, car, and have incredible memories. The one thing that makes a road trip different from any other kind of travel is the long hours in the car together, with little distraction, & lots of opportunity for frustration, connection, & snacks.