The Living on Purpose Podcast

160: 12 Mis-Steps: How Twelve-Step Programs Trip Up Trauma Survivors


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Mari welcomes K'ai Roberts Fu - Phi Beta Kappa graduate of Washington University in St. Louis, Mensa member, retired Argentine tango professional, and author of 12 Mis-Steps (released May 19, 2026) - to pull back the curtain on how 12-step programs can harm trauma survivors. K'ai spent 12 years in various 12-step programs (EA, AA, Al-Anon) and breaks down why the foundational messages - admit you're powerless, be restored to sanity, turn your will over to an outside power - are antithetical to trauma recovery, which centers empowerment, agency, and understanding you're not crazy. They discuss the cognitive dissonance of being told to surrender after surviving abuse, making amends to your abusers, finding "your part" in everything (including being victimized), the lack of oversight that enables predators, why there's no exit strategy, and how Argentine tango helped K'ai reclaim her agency by learning to lead. Plus, the relief of learning that if something doesn't work for you, it's not your fault - it's just not a fit.

Connect with K'ai: 12 Mis-Steps available now on Amazon in e-book and paperback https://a.co/d/0hZaUqCi

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The Living on Purpose PodcastBy Mari Wuellner: Life Coach