John and Merrilee go after the lingering definition of Love and God. Merrilee continues to control the narrative with brief explanations to John. “No, you’re wrong” a practiced favorite of Merrilee. John returns Socratic secular positions - like “Ok, I’ll give you that, but, how-in-the-hell can you ……” to which Merrilee says “God!” To all of this John suggests they change the terms. “God” to become “Systems.” Merrilee shows her expansive leniency with “no no John we’re not doing that – nice try” … it’s John and Merrilee every day on Spotify- the best hour on public media.

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