You, Me, Empathy

164: Masculinity and The Stigma of Fear and Shame with Mark Pagán


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On Episode 164 of You, Me, Empathy, Mark Pagán and I explore a longing we’re feeling for adventure and connection, the pressure valve emotional release we need to switch on more often, cultural identity and the question of where we fit it, and removing the stigma around fear and shame for men through the gentle, fastidious excavation of masculinity.

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