# Summary:

In Episode #166 Ari interviews [Stu McLaren](http://stu.me/), co-creator of the [WishList Member](http://member.wishlistproducts.com/), one of the most popular WordPress plug-ins of all time. During their conversation, Ari and Stu talk about getting clear on _real _wants, the nuances of entrepreneurship and the secret to running a _great _membership site.

**Special Announcements:**

## Fuel the Fire

Come watch Ari light-up the Drake Hotel in Chicago on Wednesday, August 5th as h