On this week's episode we welcome Joe Way, Mike Pederson, Greg Koerner, and Will DeWitt who are all members of HETMA - the Higher Education Technology Managers Alliance (at least I got it right here in the write up). We discuss HETMA and their upcoming conference, February 9-11, 2021 (register at hetma.org), Joe Way attempts several times to take over the Podcast, we have our PM Minute, and travel on a variety of tangents along the way! Enjoy!