How do we get ourselves out of a hyper-partisan mess that polarizes our country? In this episode, Richard interviews Mark Gerzon, experienced mediator between Republican and Democratic Members of Congress, the President of Mediators Foundation — which is dedicated to bridging social and political divides — and the author of the renowned book, THE REUNITED STATES OF AMERICA. In this fascinating and moving conversation, Richard and Mark explore the value of curiosity in transcending political hyper-partisanship and in fostering respect, kindness, and truth.

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