This week Anna sits down with Derek Owusu, the co-host of her favourite literature podcast Mostly Lit and editor of the forthcoming anthology Safe: On Black British Men Reclaiming Space. They get through a lot from the ever-inflating ego of Will Smith, to Derek’s teen obsession with serial killers - so ahead of his time in terms of the true crime craze — and the writers he believes embody the concept of 'cool'.