Joining me on Episode 17 is Ian Thomas, chief executive of Trivallis housing association.

Ian is a passionate advocate for social housing and the wider regenerative projects Trivallis and other organisations do in valleys communities. 

We talk about the key role housing associations play at a time when there is major pressure on the very basic requirement of finding somewhere decent to live.

We also explore Ian’s long and varied career path as well what a fifteen year old valleys boys got up to in Cardiff in the 70s.