"It's never as good as it seems and it's never as bad as it seems."

This week in episode 17 of The Hope Initiative, I speak to a former co-worker, Josh Sale.

Josh is originally from Adelaide, but now lives and works in Melbourne, as a statistical analyst for the St. Kilda Football Club (yes - the same club that my Dad once played for, for those of you keeping up to date!)

In this conversation we speak about how he followed his passion and turned it into a career, taking the leap and moving away from home, and what he hopes for the future.

Please enjoy the conversation with the humble, Josh Sale!