How do I play soccer like Lionel Messi? The boys might not have the answer, but a question by a listener leads them to talk about the habituation of exploratory frames in group settings. Some prett-ay prett-ay prett-ay interesting ideas thrown in the mix, including half-rules, ritual anti-structure, tarot cards, and half-coaching. No drop-in by Larry David but.

Mark's "Bringing forth within: enhabiting at the intersection between enaction and ecological  psychology" paper mentioned in the podcast can be found here:- https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.01348/abstract