In this episode, Heather interviews her father Duncan Locke, a long-time pastor, to provide insight into the many facets of being a pastor beyond just preaching on Sundays. They discuss the joys and challenges of ministry, the importance of counseling and discipleship, handling church conflicts, and walking in God's calling. Heather encourages listeners to pray for and encourage their pastors, as ministry can be lonely and difficult. Her father stresses clinging to God's calling rather than man's approval, and blurring the line between self and Christ. Overall, they aim to encourage those in ministry and a new perspective for anyone seeking to understand the heart of a pastor.